Diamondhead Casinos

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  • #2099

    noladel
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    Diamondhead Casinos

    Last week, I read in the Sun Herald that there are plans to build a casino south of I-10 at exit 16 (Diamondhead). I am not sure what can be done to stop this from happening but I am sure that traffic, congestion and crime in Diamondhead will dramatically increase.

    Golf Club Drive and parts of Diamondhead Drive East are already major short cuts for people who do not live in Diamondhead. It is normal to see people speeding, passing on Golf Club Drive, in the no passing areas, and not stopping for stop signs.

    Diamondhead is advertised as a bedroom/retirement community but that will change with the casinos.

    This is just an opinion. Anyone else have comments.

    KillerKole

    #2098

    Editor
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    Out of curiosity, where did you see those advertisements?

    #2102

    barely40
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    I agree for traffic and crime reasons it’s probably not the best of ideas…am uncertain what the outcome would be for property values as
    it seemed to have raised those near to the casino in bay st louis, so I’m told, again I don’t know. My husband and I have discussed selling before that occurs if it seems more truth than rumour. I also read the article in Sun Herald stating the land was already owned by Diamondhead Casinos?? Anyway, I surely wouldn’t want to deal with that exit traffic at 16 in the evenings when I get off work if it gets any worse.

    #2103

    Summer
    Member

    If a casino is built near Diamonhdhead, the traffic will be horrible and the crime rate will go up.

    I have no problem with anyone using Golf Club Drive, if they respect the rules. Since Golf Club Drive is a county road, is there anything that can be done to slow these people down BEFORE someone is killed or hurt?

    #2105

    Editor
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    Dont go selling the homestead yet.

    My reply to KillerKole was meant to draw attention to the fact that although marketing and sales pitches may present Diamondhead as one thing the present law does not define Diamondhead as anything in particular. The covenants only restrict POA areas for use, not adjacent areas as is the case with the Diamondhead Casino property.

    There is only one solution to these problems, incorporation. With the power of a city we can zone areas and restrict use for properties outside the POA common areas. We can better enforce traffic laws, eradicate crime and curb corruption.

    One other thing should be noted. The Sun Herald is not an objective source of information. Their association with the current and past board would put anything that appears in their paper as suspect. The article that appeared in their May 26th issue seems purposely vague and probably meant to alarm Diamondhead residents.

    Here are the facts:

    The Circus-Circus project, now the Isle of Capri, is off the Kiln-Delisle exit of I-10 in Harrison County, exit 20 to be precise. The Diamondhead Casino project is located at exit 16 and may not be a casino project at all. Diamondhead Casino Corp was formerly Europa Cruise Lines and has been attempting to develop that area for 10 years without success. Even with the new Katrina Casino laws, I wouldnt put my money in it.

    See:

    http://www.diamondheadnews.com/absolutenm/templates/DheadBusiness.asp?articleid=506&zoneid=6

    #2106

    wayne king
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    Can any of this “Casino” talk have anything to do with the delay in bringing back into service and perhaps improve the harbor area on the south side? Oh yes one other thought, The pilings of the old Yacht Club it is said are obsolete and deteriorated based upon a 25 year life…..I suspect this is true on pilings that are exposed to the weather or even less if they are in the water, the pilings in question have been protected by the building from having their preservatives leached out by weather or water and have a much longer lifespan. Imagine a treated pole lying in a warehouse, how long would it last. Maybe forever? The only way to test the pilings in question is to take core borings at different locations and determine the amount of preservatives remaining.

    #2109

    Eags753
    Member

    I have no personal opinion on a Diamondhead casino however I recall when the Treasure Chest casino in Kenner, La. was proposed the community had the same concerns you express. When the casino opened the fears of many casino opponents disappeared. Crime did not go up and the traffic was not the problem many thought it would be. It was an economic success for the city and if a vote was taken today I am confident that the people in Kenner would vote to keep the casino open. The same holds true for the Harvey, La. casino. If properly planned and managed I do not believe it would negatively impact Diamondhead. Heck, it might even be a fun place to visit. Music, entertainment, good resturants, first class hotel, shopping, etc. etc. Not to mention property values. There will certainly be a demand for housing in Diamondhead. Economics 101 says when supply exceeds demand prices rise. Just my thoughts.

    #2110

    Eags753
    Member

    I meant to say when demand exeeds supply prices rise. Sorry

    #2112

    Summer
    Member

    Maybe we should ask the police what the stats are concerning crimes around or near the casinos. I am guessing to get the whole truth, you would have to ask a police officer that you are friends with. No one wants to mention crime when they have a business in their city that brings in a lot of money.

    The casino tax money would help Hancock County. Diamondhead is the only large tax base Hancock County has for now.

    I wish we were incorporated…..

    #2119

    Eags753
    Member

    Many years ago the city that had the largest crime increase in the nation was Orlando, Fl. Why? Because of Disney World opening. The reason it went up was because more people were visiting the area. The crime index is determined by using a formular that compares the number of crimes per 100,000 population. The population of Orlando was small (thousands) compared with the number of tourist (millions). While it appeared to raise it was only because of the influx of persons to the area. Visitors are not factored into the formular. Do you thing Orlando would not vote to keep Disney World? Of course they would. The same thing is true with casinos. Of course when you have more people you have more of everything. But on a per-capita basis gaming in itself does not impact the crime picture. In any event I did speak with Chief Frank McNeil (also I am retired from law enforcement) of the Bay St. Louis police department a couple of years ago and he confirmed to me that crime and traffic was not a big issue because of the opening of Casino Magic. Ask yourself, have you been a victim of a crime while visiting Casino Magic? Have you ever had a traffic problem that was related to the casino? I thing the answer would be no to both. I don’t care one way or the other if they open a casino in Diamondhead but I just think people should be dealing with facts when supporting or opposing the creation of this industry. I still feel though it would be a fun place to visit and property values would escalate. Just my opinion. Thanks for listening.

    #2166

    E J Burns
    Member

    OK … I am trying to figure out exactly where the 40 acres and 404 acres are located. I understand it is two miles frontage on the south side of I-10 and two miles frontage on Bay St Louis. My question then becomes where are the east – west boundaries?

    Also, I know who Donald Trump is but who are the principals of the Mississippi Gaming Corporation?

    #2168

    Editor
    Moderator

    For the exact location try this link:
    http://www.google.com/maphp?hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=1&ll=30.382853,-89.347612&spn=0.068416,0.1157

    Business Description:
    Diamondhead Casino Corporation. The Group’s principal activity is to own, operate and promote cruise vessels and offer day and evening cruise services in the state of Florida. It owns a total of 404.5 acres of unimproved land in Diamondhead, Mississippi, on which it plans to develop a casino resort. It intends to develop its Diamondhead property as a destination casino resort and to eventually operate its casino resort, with an operator, through its subsidiaries, Mississippi Gaming Corporation and Casino World, Inc. The Group currently has no operations.

    Which forty acres is still a mystery.

    #2174

    Summer
    Member

    Two different people were complaining ( sound off Sun Herald) about crimes in their neighborhoods, they live near casinos.

    Casinos pay a lot in taxes, and Hancock County could use all the help they can get.

    Believe it or not you can have too many casions. The MS Gulf Coast will prove that soon. Just my oponion.

    #2175

    Eags753
    Member

    One just have to look to Louisiana and see what happens when the state limits casino licenses. The competition to aquire one of these limited licenses caused much corruption and several persons sent to jail, including the governor of Louisiana. Mississippi is correct, in my opinion, to let the market place determine how many casions are too many.
    These casino executives make decisions based upon very detailed and professional marketing studies. Sometimes they are wrong, but not often. Experts say that to have a really successful gaming industry Mississippi must become a destination area for players. According to them the only way to accomplish this is to build better and larger casino. If the state is commited to having this industry then we should do everything possible to insure its success in Mississippi. I am not a spokesman or advocate of gambling but if we are going to do it, lets do it correctly and with the greatest opportunity for success. As long as we are in the pool lets swim and not drown.

    #2177

    Summer
    Member

    There are some that will argue with you that the traffic or crime will not be a problem. I think they are wrong. Just my opinion.

    There has been a couple of Sound Offs/Sun Herald that crime was up in their neighborhoods. They lived near the casinos.

    I agree with you that speeding and careless driving in Diamondhead is a real problem. Diamondhead is now in the running for NASCAR.

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