Dredging the Diamondhead canals and channels

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  • #3064

    wayne king
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    Is anyone aware of any progress on dredgeing the Diamondhead waterways? Have any estimates for quantities and estimates for cost been prepared? Hear a lot of lip service, havent heard if any progress has been made. If we can spend $15K to extend a lot of worthless covenants possibly we can put up a few bucks for a design, cost estimate and get it bid. Quit jawboneing the project to death, get it done.

    #3063

    Lisa
    Member

    TO EVERYONE – JULY 7TH – TUESDAY OF THIS COMING WEEK THERE WILL AN OPEN BOARD MEETING AT THE COUNTRY CLUB – 3:30 PM CONCERNING THE DREDGING AND WATER MAINTENANCE OF SOUTHSIDE CANALS. APPARENTLY – THERE IS A $90,000.00 BUDGET ALLOCATED TO SOUTHSIDE TO RESTORE THEIR DEPTH BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW SINCE 2007 OUR CANALS HAVE BEEN FILLING UP WITH SAND AND SILT. THERE IS A PROBLEM – OUR BOARD PRESIDENT AND MAYBE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS (NOT SURE ON THE LATTER) DO NOT WANT TO USE THIS ALLOCATED FUND FOR SOUTHSIDE CANALS.

    WE ARE ASKING FOR ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING TO SUPPORT THE SOUTHSIDE CANALS AND ASSIST IN OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND RETURN SOUTHSIDE TO WATERFRONT PROPERTIES WHERE BOATS CAN BE USED IN THE CANALS. THERE IS A MEMO OUT FROM GORDON WALKER – TREASURER – WHOM IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

    IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE THE MEMO – PLEASE EMAIL ME AT l_keel@msn.com or lisa.keel@att.net.

    what could they possibly be spending our money on besides southside recovery and the waterways ? at this point in time……

    Has anybody seen the posting on Main street in Bay St. Louis of there beautiful new Marina ? Wow !! awesome…..

    Lisa

    #3065

    doom
    Member

    As far as I am concerned nobody supported the rezoning of the south side with all the amenities that a casino could have brought there, so live with it. I don’t care of all the canals silt full. Put lots on them (they will not sell either). Diamondhead is being allowed a slow death because certain people want DH “as it used to be”. Move forward or slide backward. The Hancock Board of Supervisors is spending our tax money to built up the rest of the county, while we pay for everything we get.

    #3066

    Eags753
    Member

    A few years ago, before Katrina, a friend of mine who lived on the south side wanted to extend his deck over the waterway. The POA would not approve of the plan he submitted. A debate began and it was determined the POA had no say so in reference to decks over the waterways. My friend’s legal counsel determined, rightfully, that this was under the jurisdiction of the Corp of Engineers. The Corp approved his plans and the deck was completed. The POA was eliminated from the process. This makes me believe we should research who is actually responsible for dredging and maintaining the waterways surrounding Diamondhead. Removing the existing silt is only temporary. A plan needs to be devised to periodically dredge and maintain the canals. To do it properly will take a lot of bucks. Perhaps Gene Taylor’s office can assist in this matter…..that is IF you can get him to respond.

    #3067

    wayne king
    Participant

    The neglect and deterioration of the waterways utilized by Diamondhead residents is a result of mismanagement of available resources by channeling most of the resources available for maintenance to a few amenities and largely avoiding stepping up to the plate and instilling an area cost comparison in determining what to charge for the utilization of all amenities to alleviate the lopsided funding disbursement. Diamondhead marina and waterways, it appears, has been on a breakdown maintenance operation for several years, the past concept of linking the Marina to the Yacht Club if only in thought, has resulted in the deterioration of the Marina and Waterways due to the substantial losses incurred by the Yacht Club operations and the refusal to close the Yacht Club or manage it effectively and provide the money to maintain the Marina. While water stations, "Silica Sand," landscaping, new greens, Cart Paths fairway restoration after the storm, expensive grass cutting equipment, and countless other items that cant be remembered by this old mind at this moment, went on with short notice and aggressive pursuit the Marina and Waterways were avoided. The percentage of revenue compared to its cost make our Golf courses a luxury we can Ill afford when the other amenities are allowed to go fallow and become to expensive to bring up to speed. There must be a long range plan developed and funded by set aside monies to take care of high cost improvements and repairs to all amenities. Scheduled inspections and items of repair generated by these inspections accomplished either in house or by contract in a timely manner. Users should expect to pay a cost equal to what in kind activities cost in the area. The problems need to be resolved NOW, or the south side can be written off. The Casino would have been a great asset in alleviating these problems based upon its expected return in funding, however self centered minds prevailed and that was that, without another plan to cover the need. There has been repair work and new construction done at the marina, however it appears largely is the result of utilization of insurance monies, etc. and not from the POA fee contributory monies and the repair has been done on an as needed basis,ie new deck planks while leaving deteriorated pilings in place. This is throwing good money after bad.

    #3068

    Eags753
    Member

    Doom:

    I agree with you. The loss of such a tax producing entity will be felt by residents of Diamondhead for many years. Most communities would have offered incentives to attract the project. Two polls indicated 62% of the residents were in favor of the casino project and yet this board went against the wishes of the majority and publicly opposed the effort. $150.000.000 investment in Diamondhead down the drain. The investors were so discussed they did not even appeal the supervisors decision. One member of the supervisors said in the newspaper if he had know they were not going to appeal he would have voted for the project. Too little too late. In my opinion there was more to this opposition than meets the eye and one day, perhaps, the truth will be come out. I respect all opinions on a issue whether I agree or not. I just object to this board using their position and implying they represent the will of all residents when they spoke up against the casino. This was dishonest and unethical of their part. Of course, witnessing other events, no one should be surprised at the lack of competency displayed by this board. Boy…..do we need a change in leadership or what?

    #3069

    Lisa
    Member

    Wayne – and all viewer’s –

    Concerning the Diamondhead – waterways/maintenance issue – tomorrow – OPEN BOARD MEETING at the Country Club – July 7th. The meeting is at

    3:00 pm not 3:30pm. Please take note of this correction I need to make. I am hearing too that this important issue is on the agenda – FIRST THING…..

    Thank you very much and please pass this on to all interested parties.

    Lisa

    #3070

    Lisa
    Member

    Dear Doom,

    I just read your response and need to tell you that many – many people were for the re-zoning of the Jacobs Casino. It is all on public record. As you stated- Diamondhead is a dying entity. You apparently were for this re-zoning and what the Casino would bring in economic relief. Most of the business people in Diamondhead- including realtors/brokers believed that this could help the faulting county economy and this Diamondhead area. I was very actively involved. The Hancock County zoning committee, which is a huge part of the Hancock Board of Supervisors voted for the re-zoning . They were in definite favor. Many believe that the vote not to pass the re-zoning was very political and not in the best interest of this county or community.

    As a Southside property owner, that lived on a very pretty finger canal with a beautiful view of the marsh and the Bay – I am offended by your comments because I know what I lost and what I had. Even after all this time. I have lived in Diamondhead close to 12 years now. How very harsh on your part in respect to myself and others. Its always worth fighting for this community and the Southside recovery. It may never come back and that maybe a reality.

    Hancock County is spending because of the funding they received from the federal government. The re-zoning and Casino development would of brought growth and development to DIAMONDHEAD. I totally agree with you on this potential “forward” move.

    Diamondhead had a chance on “not staying the same” and becoming more of a resort community, which was the original plan for Diamondhead. Also, as a further note – the zoning as it exists now is potentially dangerous for us property owners. Any development can go in now…..Home Depot, Loews, apartments, shopping center with unfavorable business’s, etc etc. The re-zoning would of been exclusive – for resort only developments. Harbor House – Townhomes would of been re-built on the Southside. Besides, as you stated all the amenties and investment this re-zoning offered and the Casino would of developed.

    Lisa

    #3071

    Lisa
    Member

    Thank you……comments and information are right on.

    Lisa

    #3072

    doom
    Member

    Sorry Lisa,

    I was being harsh, but I am very disgusted. We have no control over our own fate. With every new board I hope things will get better, but they just get worse. What do we have to throw off this yoke of oppression? I have been in DH for 22 yrs. My late parents bought a lot so long ago that they could not even get to it. To get to the DH sales office (now community center) they had to walk on wooden boards. So I am well aware of what we have lost over the years, all around Diamondhead. The street where I live is a ghost town with all the empty houses.

    The open board meetings are a joke. Everything is decided in “executive session”. As a taxpaying citizens we are getting screwed out of federal, state and local tax dollars. Perhaps we need a tea party. Or horror of horrors we stop paying dues.

    #3098

    wayne king
    Participant

    I hope the canals get dredged as quickly as the runway at the airport got re-striped, now thats response and where did that money come from?

    #3101

    wayne king
    Participant

    Been to the Circus lately? Read the August POA Board meeting minutes, Come to your own deductions. Remember all of it when you go to vote next time.

    #3102

    Lisa
    Member

    Wayne –

    I was at the July Board Meeting. I missed the August because of a meeting. The July board meeting was a huge disappointment. Especially from our President . There was a definite breach of confidence from the other board members towards him. We all saw a lot of tension and comments directed towards him and the unexplained, ridiculous thought process he presented.

    Please – everyone remember – election for board members will be on June 2010. Be involved……..

    Lisa

    #3103

    Editor
    Moderator

    You had better plan on soliciting for proxies long before the POA board releases its’ "official" proxy. If you don’t you will have to overcome a big disadvantage.

    #3104

    Lisa
    Member

    That is right – the proxy situation. I worked on that during the last election. Want an ordeal. The problem is the POA does not know what they are doing with the proxy’s. Even though the exact instructions are listed in the Covenants. I must of sent out a 100 emails with different directions and corrections when discussed with current board members on what to do. So many Southsiders live out of town now but they wanted to vote.

    It should be interesting. Lets see what directions they have in place this coming year. The official proxy could be released in a limited time frame – so that it would be difficult to contact or have property owners respond in a timely manner.

    Thanks for reminding me on this one. Your right…..

    Lisa

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