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  • #2312

    Editor
    Moderator

    Any information concerning rebuilding the area south of I-10?

    #2311

    wayne king
    Participant

    All the planning for the Yatch club must be being done by phone.

    #2328

    Ronnie
    Participant

    In the Sept. POA minutes there was mentioned a press news release concerning the marina and restaurant construction due out on Sept. 17th. Has anyone seen this news article? What is being done to promote progress for rebuilding the Southside?

    #2330

    Ronnie
    Participant

    I decided to call the POA to get the latest information and answer my own question.

    Request for bids are out to contractors for rebuilding the marina retaining wall, docks and boats slips. Bids are due back by Oct. 15th. Construction should start ASAP after the contract is awarded.

    Requests are out to prospective restaurant companies for proposals to lease the POA property at the marina site, to build and operate their own restaurant at this location. Deadline for these proposals is Dec. 10th. If no deals can be made, then the POA plans to begin to rebuild the facility sometime after the first of the year.

    The debris removal from the canals has been completed. I also learned that the POA is running into difficulties (obtaining funds) in getting the silt dredged out of the canals. The canals are owned by Purcell.

    #2334

    wayne king
    Participant

    Is there a difference between a canal and a street?

    #2335

    Ronnie
    Participant

    I am not sure what the real answer is or who readly owns them. Canals are access ways to our property, much like a roadway. The POA have always done some dredging in the past, mainly in the main canal, but the need to dredge is more extension now since the hurricane than it has been in the past.

    #2336

    wayne king
    Participant

    In relation to other activities and eminities here in diamondhead, is there a big difference between a canal and a golf cart path on the golf course?

    #2762

    LKeel
    Member

    I drove down Southside today – the pilings are up on the Pier House and braced in position right now. So, it has started….for sure.

    Secondly, the the POA has done some landscaping – 6 – 8 small to medium size – azalea bushes – white, one or two other type of bushes – not in bloom. Mud as been laid down and smoothed thru the Harbor House area in front, on Airport and on Diamondhead Drive South. Harbor House beds in the front have not been maintained or “spruced up” and the circle entrance turning into the Pier House now – that front bed has been cut all the way down but “no new plantings” seen – as of yet ??? Will there be…..

    I wonder what else will be done with our $48,000.00 that was allocated to the Southside for the 2009 POA budget. Anybody know if the Silt Boxes for the canals (that are filling up with silt/mud) were built yet or have seen them ? There is suppose to 4 – built by the POA maintenance fellows at $ 12,000.00 a piece. That would be our total for the complete allocated budget given to the Southside recovery of $ 100,000.00 for this year.

    If anyone knows anything else to what has been done – let us all know. How much are azalea bushes going for now ? Or maybe these we donated and we still have the $ 48,000.00 for something else for Southside for Landscaping ?

    Keep checking everybody. I will too……

    Also, as a heads up – right after I was driving around today and on my property – I saw a young man – on private property , my street. He stated to me when I asked him what he was doing – he said he was taking lumber and wood. He was on private property in the woods . I am sure he was going to approach other properties if he could get away with it. I orginally saw him driving around and he drove thru my cul-de-sac where my car was parked and I was walking. I did call security….and they did come out immediately. The young man was approached and a report filled out – no charges pressed. But he said or thought that the wooded properties and isolated lots were not private. Security informed him differently.

    Again, to everyone on Southside – please have securities phone number in your cell phones. Security was very good today and handled everything very professionally. They want us to do this when needed and call them. NO ONE IS ALLOWED ON SOUTHSIDE OR THE PROPERTIES UNLESS THEY ARE PROPERTY OWNERS or HAVE PERMISSION BY PROPERTY OWNERS. Please also have your POA Cards with you. I did and they were appreciative because most property owners do not carry them in their purse or wallet. It sure helps them when they are out patroling and have to stop individuals.

    Lisa

    #3003

    Eags753
    Member

    The development of a casino in Diamondhead by the Jacobs Group is dead in the water. Sadly, there will be no appeal of the supervisiors decision. This, in my opinion, represents a great loss to the Diamondhead community and to all property owners in Hancock County. Diamondhead’s chance to realize its potential has been blown away by elected persons who put their finger in their mouth and held the finger to the wind to determine which way the wind blows on this issue. A complete lack of leadership and backbone. Even the system (the finger) they used was faulted if you view the polls conducted by the Jacobs Group and the poll taken by The Diamondhead News. Both polls indicated over 60% of residents supported the Jacobs project. Where oh where have the leaders gone?

    #3004

    adleaded
    Member

    I for one am against a casino in Diamondhead I believe the cons greatly outweigh the pros. As for Diamondhead seeing any benefit from taxes from the casino … not as long as we are a private community. The only people to see any benefit will be the so called City Officials for their benefit. Sorry but I am very glad the Board of Supervisors overruled the Planning and Zoning Dept. and there are many that feel the same way I do. I also find the 60% figure to sound a little inflated from what I have seen.

    #3005

    Eags753
    Member

    I completely understand and respect your position. Our economy is fuled mostly by supply and demand. When the supply exceeds the demand (like the homes for sale in Diamondhead) the cost of an item (home) lowers. When the demand exeeds the supply, prices rise. If the casino project was to advance the developer was planning on a total investment of $500 million dollars. What a great boom for Diamondhead and Hancock County. With 4,000 to 5,000 persons being employed the demand for housing in Diamondhead would surely cause the price to go up. It would turn a buyers market into a sellers market. I have heard the arguments about traffic jams, crime increases, bankrupts, etc. etc…When Casino Magic, BSL, Treasure Chest in Kenner, La. and the Boomtown in Harvey, La. were posposed some were up in arms.. The projects proceeded anyway and none of the fears were realized. It is not to say some problems would not result but they would just have to be confronted and solutions found. I see no sense in throwing the baby out with the wash. Some were opposed to DisneyWorld being built in Orlando for the same reasons. But…..who would not want a DisneyWorld in their state. On second thought……there would some no doubt.

    Since the editor of this site was responsible for one of the polls I would defer to him for response. The Jacobs poll results were published in the local papers. You will have to judge for yourself the accuracy of the polls. Again, I respect your position and welcome your debate on the subject. Hope you have a nice day.

    #3006

    Editor
    Moderator

    There have been many critiques of our polling on this issue without any understanding or questioning of the methods we used. Our poll was open to all who wanted to vote on this issue. The same technique CNN, FOXNews and others who use the internet for polling employ. We allowed people from outside of Diamondhead to be included in the poll because this issue involved not about only Diamondhead but Hancock County, the state of Mississippi and the entire Gulf Coast. All of these areas would be affected by this project. This method of polling also facilitated the participation of the large percentage of Diamondhead property owners who live outside the state. A fact that the opponents of this project painstakingly ignored when they voiced their opposition to the Board of Supervisors
    We will say that many tried to vote multiple times which was not allowed and repeated attempts in the final twenty four hours to circumvent this feature caused the poll to crash. This attempted was made by someone to vote numerous times against the proposition. We were able to salvage the poll and gave our results that displayed only one vote per computer address to the Board of Supervisors only after we were asked. The results were 62% in favor to 38% against.

    We contend that this method was much more accurate than a wet finger in the air.

    #3007

    tdragger
    Participant

    I live in the Southside. On Airport Drive, where the water almost completely wiped out my neighbors.
    THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD WANT TO DRIVE TO MY HOME, THRU THE PARKING LOT OF A TRUCK STOP CASINO!

    I have done considerable research on the Jacobs Group, and it is a man and wife operation, not a highly financed or overly reputable operation. They operate the Blackhawk Casino in Denver, and I have visited that casino. It is a nice, little general casino. Nothing overly impressive, and even tho I lived in the area at the time, I never felt any urge to go back.
    They also operate a race track in the northeast, which holds 4,000 people. I have never heard of a race track that small.
    They operate 21 truck stop video game casinos in Louisiana. I recently made a trip to Oklahoma, and deliberately stopped at two of their operations.
    I WOULD NOT GO BACK TO EITHER OF THESE TWO AFTER DARK! My wife would not get out of the car.

    Anyone who thinks that the Jacobs Group was going to operate an upscale casino in the Diamondhead area, one of the only casinos that would have been on a major freeway interchange in Mississippi, needs to look at what they have done in Louisiana, and their other operations. They operate truck stop casinos, and that is what would have been in Diamondhead. And they are a mom-and-pop operation.
    Our POA investigated these people and their proposal thoroughly, and came to the conclusion that in toto, it would have been a MONEY-LOSING proposition for Diamondhead. That is why they came out in unanimous opposition to the Jacobs proposal. I feel they did us, Diamondhead, a tremendous service. THANK YOU, POA.

    The Diamondhead Casino Corporation, which owns the 400 acres of land immediately east of South Diamondhead, is in negotiations with Casinos Austria to build an actually desirable casino operation on their land. This casino operation will be a major asset to the Diamondhead area, if it gets built, and it has the almost unqualified approval of the South side residents. Casinos Austria is a world-wide operation, operating in many different countries, and has downright impressive operations overall. Definitely not a mom-and-pop truck stop operation.
    I would suggest that those who were so “impressed” with the Jacobs group, learn what an operation actually is, before you support it. We do not need any truck stop casinos in Diamondhead. And very DEFINITELY not at the entrance to our entire Southside neighborhood.

    Lee Taylor

    #3009

    Eags753
    Member

    tdragger:

    Don’t know were you are getting the information but truck stop casino’s are not legal in the state of Mississippi. Surely the research you or the POA did would have provided that information. You said the POA investigated these people and came to the conclusion that the project would have been a money loser. Where is that report, who funded it and how can we get a copy? To my knowledge it has not been circulated to the POA residents. I do not know anyone with the Jacob’s Group but I do know that all plans for casino’s have to be specific and in great detail. It would not be possible for any group to “slip” a shoddy casino/hotel by the Mississippi Gaming Commission, the Hancock County Planning Commission and the Diamondhead Architect Board.
    Not one single nail or screw would be placed without prior approval and the project would be subject to intense inspection and scrutiny. If you said they did not have the money to accomplish the project that would be one thing. But to suggest they can come in and put in a truck stop casino is ludicrous and simply not true. And…..I would not hold my breath waiting for the Diamondhead Casino Corporation to build a casino. For the last fifteen years we have been hearing this group has an interested party and negotiations are in progress. Has an investigation been conducted by the POA on this group? If so who funded it and where can we get a copy this report too? If no investigation was done on this group……why not?

    #3010

    tdragger
    Participant

    EAGS753: Google the Jacobs Entertainment Group. All the FACTS are right there for you to see, rather than the rumor and suppositions which you seem to want to believe. As to the POA assessment of the attempt, contact the POA. I am sure they will be perfectly willing to give you their opinion.
    And as I said, I have PERSONALLY visited three of the Jacobs facilities. Have you?

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